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vari21

France
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Posted - 04/14/2020 :  16:51:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi, i want a buy a new willem pcb programmer to write succesfully 27C322 27C160 27C400 27C800 eproms for my megadrive games, i still have an old win98 computer with lpt port,db25 printer cables, external 15v 4A power supply,16 bit 42pin adapter ive got software 098 097ja ..
the problem is i dont know what willem hardware pcb which will works well with my project.i use to have a willem pcb 5.0E but i ve never was able to write anything with it it gave me buffer underun each time i want to write a rom on the eprom. so may be changing a version hardware pcb T or C will would be a solution i need your opinions thanks.
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anniel

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Posted - 04/15/2020 :  06:11:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vari21

hi, i want a buy a new willem pcb programmer to write succesfully 27C322 27C160 27C400 27C800 eproms for my megadrive games, i still have an old win98 computer with lpt port,db25 printer cables, external 15v 4A power supply,16 bit 42pin adapter ive got software 098 097ja ..
the problem is i dont know what willem hardware pcb which will works well with my project.i use to have a willem pcb 5.0E but i ve never was able to write anything with it it gave me buffer underun each time i want to write a rom on the eprom. so may be changing a version hardware pcb T or C will would be a solution i need your opinions thanks.

A buffer underrun indicates your setup didn't push data fast enough to the programmer.
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vari21

France
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Posted - 04/15/2020 :  07:16:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi anniel
you said setup didnt push data fast to the programmer, so how to fix that by modify twe/twc in the software
or replacing the power supply or what?
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anniel

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Posted - 04/15/2020 :  07:49:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vari21

hi anniel
you said setup didnt push data fast to the programmer, so how to fix that by modify twe/twc in the software
or replacing the power supply or what?

Did you try increasing the buffer size?
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vari21

France
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Posted - 04/15/2020 :  08:13:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i ve modified the twc/twe i put to many values there no succes, i ve tried almost everything without succes
increasing the buffer i dont think i ve done it. how to do that?
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anniel

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Posted - 04/15/2020 :  09:02:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vari21

i ve modified the twc/twe i put to many values there no succes, i ve tried almost everything without succes
increasing the buffer i dont think i ve done it. how to do that?

Read your Windows 98 documentation.
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vari21

France
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Posted - 04/15/2020 :  09:31:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok i will check that.
sorry i ve got another questions so excuse my ignorance.
why i get hardware not present error when jumper 8 is removed to
start programming the 27C322 eprom which needs 6.25v to be programmed ?
what the difference between willem hardware pcb5.0E pcb5.0T pcb5.0F i want to buy a new willem pcb
programmer so i want to make sure which version will work reliably with 16 bit 42pin eproms like the 27C322
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vari21

France
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Posted - 04/16/2020 :  00:44:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
please help me
i get hardware not present error when jumper 8 is removed to
start programming the 27C322 eprom which needs 6.25v to be programmed ?
also i want know the difference between willem hardware pcb5.0E pcb5.0T pcb5.0F i want to buy a new willem pcb
programmer so i want to make sure which version will work reliably with 16 bit 42pin eproms like the 27C322
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anniel

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Posted - 04/16/2020 :  09:56:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vari21

ok i will check that.
sorry i ve got another questions so excuse my ignorance.
why i get hardware not present error when jumper 8 is removed to
start programming the 27C322 eprom which needs 6.25v to be programmed ?
what the difference between willem hardware pcb5.0E pcb5.0T pcb5.0F i want to buy a new willem pcb
programmer so i want to make sure which version will work reliably with 16 bit 42pin eproms like the 27C322


For the differences between each versions ask the seller. Also ask for a supported devices list.
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anniel

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Posted - 04/16/2020 :  09:56:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vari21

please help me
i get hardware not present error when jumper 8 is removed to
start programming the 27C322 eprom which needs 6.25v to be programmed ?
also i want know the difference between willem hardware pcb5.0E pcb5.0T pcb5.0F i want to buy a new willem pcb
programmer so i want to make sure which version will work reliably with 16 bit 42pin eproms like the 27C322


Does the 6.25V go to the chip?
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vari21

France
12 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2020 :  10:05:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes when i check with the multimeter 6.25 is present on pin 17
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anniel

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Posted - 04/16/2020 :  12:41:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vari21

Yes when i check with the multimeter 6.25 is present on pin 17

And logic keeps a good constant 5V?
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vari21

France
12 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2020 :  13:58:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes 5v very stable.
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anniel

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Posted - 04/16/2020 :  16:18:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vari21

yes 5v very stable.

Certain about your LPT working correctly? Did you manage to write some other chips?
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vari21

France
12 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2020 :  03:16:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i ve tried 3 IEEE cables the thciker,the ones we use for old printers, yes lpt is working properly, i have hardware present when i plug a 12V 3A dc psu i can read a chip verify it but no writing at all, when i keep jumper8 on 5.7v position to start programming the process goes the end but in order to have the green bar i get the error.
when i remove the jumper8 to allow 6.2v since the 27C322 need 6.2v, i get hardware not present as soon as i click on program icon very strange.
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anniel

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Posted - 04/17/2020 :  06:30:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vari21

i ve tried 3 IEEE cables the thciker,the ones we use for old printers, yes lpt is working properly, i have hardware present when i plug a 12V 3A dc psu i can read a chip verify it but no writing at all, when i keep jumper8 on 5.7v position to start programming the process goes the end but in order to have the green bar i get the error.
when i remove the jumper8 to allow 6.2v since the 27C322 need 6.2v, i get hardware not present as soon as i click on program icon very strange.

If voltages are good at all times, I can't see why you get that error.
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vari21

France
12 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2020 :  13:14:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i think the chinese device is faulty i got it from ebay .thats why i want get another pcb version much improved.
the willem software version 0.97e has support for 27C322 27C160 eproms can anybody confirm that?
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anniel

2540 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2020 :  13:26:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vari21

i think the chinese device is faulty i got it from ebay .thats why i want get another pcb version much improved.
the willem software version 0.97e has support for 27C322 27C160 eproms can anybody confirm that?

Are you talking about the programmer or the chip that comes from eBay?
If you want improvement go with a modern programmer.
Simplest is to install the software and check it out.
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vari21

France
12 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2020 :  04:08:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
im talking about the chinese programmer which i suspect faulty? yes defintely you right modern burner is the way to go. in my case need to burn 27C322 /27C160 /27C400 eproms for megadrive projects, which programmer do you recommend?
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anniel

2540 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2020 :  08:48:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vari21

im talking about the chinese programmer which i suspect faulty? yes defintely you right modern burner is the way to go. in my case need to burn 27C322 /27C160 /27C400 eproms for megadrive projects, which programmer do you recommend?


What is your budget?
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vari21

France
12 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2020 :  04:37:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my budget is 30 euro i know it s very low for a good programmer that s why i went with willems burner,sorry i need also to burn old eproms that requires 21v vpp from time to time,i did nt mention that in my previous message sorry.
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anniel

2540 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2020 :  06:14:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vari21

my budget is 30 euro i know it s very low for a good programmer that s why i went with willems burner,sorry i need also to burn old eproms that requires 21v vpp from time to time,i did nt mention that in my previous message sorry.

I think you have no other choices than Chinese junk or look for an used programmer of good quality. You can maybe repair the defective one you already have.
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vari21

France
12 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2020 :  05:17:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hello again i need your expert advices please.
i m about to order the gq-4x+adp054 from datahardware ebay.co.Uk
i made a lot of searches and i found that datahrdware is the official supplier distributor of mcumall products in uk,so all their products are genuine.

the problem is a lot of people have troubles with programming the 27C322/27C160/27C400/27C800 it seems that the programmer was nt reliable what do you think thanks.
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