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JanJ

USA
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Posted - 02/17/2019 :  04:06:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can someone please confirm this?
I'm trying to duplicate one Altera EPM7032 chip, and the GQ-4x4 selects the chip, but on read it says it's not loaded.....
"Data file not loaded in Buffer"

In another thread another person asked the same thing (Unable to Read) on a different Altera Complex Logic chip..... and was told that GQ-4x4 supports only Write, not Read or Verify....

Is this true?

If so, don't you think you should mention that in the JTAG section of the manual???

Thanks for replying...

Edited by - JanJ on 02/17/2019 04:16:13
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anniel

1996 Posts

Posted - 02/17/2019 :  05:54:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JanJ

Can someone please confirm this?
I'm trying to duplicate one Altera EPM7032 chip, and the GQ-4x4 selects the chip, but on read it says it's not loaded.....
"Data file not loaded in Buffer"

In another thread another person asked the same thing (Unable to Read) on a different Altera Complex Logic chip..... and was told that GQ-4x4 supports only Write, not Read or Verify....

Is this true?

If so, don't you think you should mention that in the JTAG section of the manual???

Thanks for replying...


CPL devices have copy protection mechanisms.
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JanJ

USA
33 Posts

Posted - 02/17/2019 :  08:59:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No. What Iím trying to confirm is does the GQ-4x4 programmer
Read the chip. The chip that was installed was blank, new.
Howeveró-
If I put no chip in I got same message! Itís not acting like it can read it.
Obviously until itís read, it canít be duplicated. But since no chip acts the same as
When a chip is installed, we are not talking security, we are talking programmer!!

Edited by - JanJ on 02/17/2019 09:29:54
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JanJ

USA
33 Posts

Posted - 02/17/2019 :  09:08:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes or no......

Can the GQ-4x4 set for EPM7032 Support reading a programmed chip, or,
is the GQ software support write only via JTAG?

If the answer is ďNo, GQ-4x4 Cannot read a programmed 7032Ē

How about updating the manual so everybody knows what limitations exist???

Note: Those "limitations", as you say, are part of an industry standard software.

Edited by - anniel on 02/18/2019 04:56:55
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anniel

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Posted - 02/18/2019 :  04:52:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JanJ

No. What Iím trying to confirm is does the GQ-4x4 programmer
Read the chip. The chip that was installed was blank, new.
Howeveró-
If I put no chip in I got same message! Itís not acting like it can read it.
Obviously until itís read, it canít be duplicated. But since no chip acts the same as
When a chip is installed, we are not talking security, we are talking programmer!!

http://www.mcumall.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6796
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JanJ

USA
33 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2019 :  06:15:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Then why isn't it in the latest manual?

And why via Phone Call, and Email was Full support indicated for the EPM 7032 chip with a ADP-097 adapter?

I suggest you update your manual, and Train the folks who answer the phones and reply to emails of this limitation....
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JanJ

USA
33 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2019 :  08:00:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Still awaiting the answer as to why it's not in the manual!!
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anniel

1996 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2019 :  09:32:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JanJ

Then why isn't it in the latest manual?

And why via Phone Call, and Email was Full support indicated for the EPM 7032 chip with a ADP-097 adapter?

I suggest you update your manual, and Train the folks who answer the phones and reply to emails of this limitation....


You mean like the manual of a DVD player that doesn't say you can't record vinyl or a car's manual that doesn't state the car doesn't float or a boat manual that is silent on the fact it does not fly?

Probably because the chip is supported?

You should call back where you called and say so. Email might also work.
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anniel

1996 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2019 :  09:32:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JanJ

Still awaiting the answer as to why it's not in the manual!!



I doubt anyone would make a huge manual to state everything that cant be done with something.
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JanJ

USA
33 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2019 :  12:43:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are amazing
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anniel

1996 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2019 :  12:59:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JanJ

You are amazing


Thank you but for an engineer you are quite fascinating and amazing yourself!
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JanJ

USA
33 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2019 :  16:25:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You sidestep all questions, instead of providing support, donít you???
And donít answer ďWhat Support?Ē As thatís what we are thinking!!!
You need to get a lifeóó elsewhere!!
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anniel

1996 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2019 :  16:38:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JanJ

You sidestep all questions, instead of providing support, donít you???
And donít answer ďWhat Support?Ē As thatís what we are thinking!!!
You need to get a lifeóó elsewhere!!


Why would I provide you with support when you ignore all the help and answers you get?
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