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vibroverbus

USA
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Posted - 11/30/2016 :  15:37:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Same old topic that's been posted before by many customers.

Have the ADP-004 adapter.
Have an M35080-6 thats fresh out of a BMW cluster. It absolutely has data on it.

CG-4X can't read ANYTHING from it. All FF is returned.

I suspect the chip orientation, or, the ADP-004 orientation in the ZIF is perhaps wrong but there is NO DOCUMENTATION as to how this is supposed to be setup. The little picture in the software is pretty useless.

Question: What orientation EXACTLY is the ADP-004 supposed to be? Which pins from adapter and which direction (ADP-004 is poorly marked with zero indication of the 1 pin location and alignment in the ZIF)?
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ZLM

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Posted - 12/03/2016 :  21:39:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If your programmer is older version GQ-4x, then the ADP-004 does not work. You need ADP-088 and remap the pins.
see: http://www.mcumall.com/support/ADP-088_Connection.html


If your programmer is the latest version GQ-4x4, then the ADP-004 is good enough.

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vibroverbus

USA
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Posted - 04/26/2018 :  04:16:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Screwing around with these chips again and forgot entirely that I'd started a topic here.

Well:

I've discovered at least one fact that is the source of many of the complaints about these chips, that seems inadequately / inaccurately documented:

Chips that are labeled as M38050-6 that are used in BMW instrument clusters (as well as probably some other makes and modules I am guessing...), do not use the standard ADP-004 pinout.

They very definitely absolutely use the 'special' pinout aka the ADP-088 pinout.

So for those of us with the GQ-4x or older programmers, and trying to read those specific chips, the doc is incorrect. USE THE ADP-088 CONNECTION for reading those old BMW-cluster chips.

Now, whether there are different M38050-6 chips that use the old 'standard' / ADP-004 pinout, I don't know. Could be, and it could be the BMW chips were silkscreened as -6 when they are really -V6 or whatever. But I guarantee that if you are trying to read those (and those are generally any BMW cluster chip from the early 2000's...), you need to use the ADP-088 pinout remapping, and ignore the posts and threads on this board that say the M38050-6 can use the ADP-004. That is not correct for BMW-cluster chips at the very least.
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anniel

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Posted - 04/26/2018 :  14:53:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vibroverbus

Screwing around with these chips again and forgot entirely that I'd started a topic here.

Well:

I've discovered at least one fact that is the source of many of the complaints about these chips, that seems inadequately / inaccurately documented:

Chips that are labeled as M38050-6 that are used in BMW instrument clusters (as well as probably some other makes and modules I am guessing...), do not use the standard ADP-004 pinout.

They very definitely absolutely use the 'special' pinout aka the ADP-088 pinout.

So for those of us with the GQ-4x or older programmers, and trying to read those specific chips, the doc is incorrect. USE THE ADP-088 CONNECTION for reading those old BMW-cluster chips.

Now, whether there are different M38050-6 chips that use the old 'standard' / ADP-004 pinout, I don't know. Could be, and it could be the BMW chips were silkscreened as -6 when they are really -V6 or whatever. But I guarantee that if you are trying to read those (and those are generally any BMW cluster chip from the early 2000's...), you need to use the ADP-088 pinout remapping, and ignore the posts and threads on this board that say the M38050-6 can use the ADP-004. That is not correct for BMW-cluster chips at the very least.



Good contribution.
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